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	<title>Comments on: Schadenfreudelicious!  Baylor Prez canned Thursday</title>
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		<title>By: Indyanna</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2008/07/25/schadenfreudelicious-baylor-prez-canned-thursday/comment-page-1/#comment-44315</link>
		<dc:creator>Indyanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto to Ortho&#039;s point. It was a very stressful article to read, in ways that I couldn&#039;t entirely identify or pin down, not being a blogger, only a consumer. Would probably be worth an entire post of its own to sort out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto to Ortho&#8217;s point. It was a very stressful article to read, in ways that I couldn&#8217;t entirely identify or pin down, not being a blogger, only a consumer. Would probably be worth an entire post of its own to sort out.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2008/07/25/schadenfreudelicious-baylor-prez-canned-thursday/comment-page-1/#comment-43429</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Ortho--I&#039;m glad that BlogHer is getting more political in their analysis of gender and blogging!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ortho&#8211;I&#8217;m glad that BlogHer is getting more political in their analysis of gender and blogging!</p>
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		<title>By: ortho stice</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2008/07/25/schadenfreudelicious-baylor-prez-canned-thursday/comment-page-1/#comment-43242</link>
		<dc:creator>ortho stice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Historiann, sorry to go off topic.  If you have not yet seen this article, you might find it of interest: &quot;Blogging&#039;s Glass Ceiling&quot; -- &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/27/fashion/27blogher.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/27/fashion/27blogher.html&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Historiann, sorry to go off topic.  If you have not yet seen this article, you might find it of interest: &#8220;Blogging&#8217;s Glass Ceiling&#8221; &#8212; <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/27/fashion/27blogher.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/27/fashion/27blogher.html</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
		<link>http://www.historiann.com/2008/07/25/schadenfreudelicious-baylor-prez-canned-thursday/comment-page-1/#comment-42987</link>
		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the comments now at IHE--some insiders (well, anonymous people claiming to be insiders) are backing up the impression from the news reports that he rode roughshod over shared governance, university procedures, and anyone or anything that got in his way.

Janice, I hadn&#039;t heard that there were problems with Darwinists versus ID people--yikes.  But, that&#039;s an issue for only a few departments, not a university-wide issue, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the comments now at IHE&#8211;some insiders (well, anonymous people claiming to be insiders) are backing up the impression from the news reports that he rode roughshod over shared governance, university procedures, and anyone or anything that got in his way.</p>
<p>Janice, I hadn&#8217;t heard that there were problems with Darwinists versus ID people&#8211;yikes.  But, that&#8217;s an issue for only a few departments, not a university-wide issue, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Janice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think he was a great, even a good president, but I believe that infighting amongst the ID crazies for control of Baylor as a Baptist mission has a lot to do with it, too.

I&#039;m pretty sure that if they hire someone to match with their new vision of Baylor&#039;s mission, we won&#039;t see much friendliness to junior faculty who aren&#039;t toeing the line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think he was a great, even a good president, but I believe that infighting amongst the ID crazies for control of Baylor as a Baptist mission has a lot to do with it, too.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that if they hire someone to match with their new vision of Baylor&#8217;s mission, we won&#8217;t see much friendliness to junior faculty who aren&#8217;t toeing the line.</p>
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		<title>By: Historiann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historiann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you want the job at Baylor, GayProf?

I think it mostly has to do with fundraising and bitch-slapping the faculty.  While Lilley excelled at the latter, I heard he was pretty bad at the former (angering the alumni by making pointless changes, etc.)  Lilley&#039;s mistake was in trying to fire people AFTER their departments had recommended them for tenure and promotion.  That way, he made not just enemies of the people he tried to fire, but enemies of whole departments who resented that their procedures and judgment were being peed on from above.

Way to go, John.  Don&#039;t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you want the job at Baylor, GayProf?</p>
<p>I think it mostly has to do with fundraising and bitch-slapping the faculty.  While Lilley excelled at the latter, I heard he was pretty bad at the former (angering the alumni by making pointless changes, etc.)  Lilley&#8217;s mistake was in trying to fire people AFTER their departments had recommended them for tenure and promotion.  That way, he made not just enemies of the people he tried to fire, but enemies of whole departments who resented that their procedures and judgment were being peed on from above.</p>
<p>Way to go, John.  Don&#8217;t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.</p>
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		<title>By: GayProf</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayProf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just what are the criteria for hiring university presidents these days?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just what are the criteria for hiring university presidents these days?</p>
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