Comments on: Limp “satire” begets more limpness

By: Historiann

Historiann — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:00:44 +0000

Good point, Prof. bw. What we have here is upper middle-class white people making in-jokes to themselves, and seemingly ignorant that these images might be read in any other way than the way they read them. Oy.

By: prof bw

prof bw — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:39:15 +0000

actually, what I see here is Vanity Fair coming to the defense of The New Yorker. By putting together an image that is largely based on “truths” as you say and contains no actual offenses towards marginalized groups (one could argue that old age is a marginalized identity however, older white males with money have never been in that group) and then recreating enough of the color scheme and the fist tap to reference the original they are saying what many people say: people are too sensitive about Obama. B/c he is black we cannot say anything about him or we’re suddenly racist. See, when its white people, no one goes up in arms.

But then, what do you expect from the same people who recreated the infamous King Kong poster using a basketball star (told to grimace for the shot) and a blonde super model?

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By: Historiann

Historiann — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:40:38 +0000

Yeah–I just don’t understand the New Yorker or Vanity Fair. I don’t think the pills are a cheap shot at all–Cindy McCain been very public about her problem, and there is a history after all of First Ladies and drug and alcohol abuse (Betty Ford).

By: Rad readr

Rad readr — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:11:59 +0000

This reminds me of when people say racism against whites is the same as racism against blacks. In this case, as you point out, historiann, all satires are not equal. The pills are a cheap shot, but it’s a rather tame portrayal compared to the New Yorker in terms of the images and symbols. The implication here is that the two covers are commensurate…I want to see if Obama denounces it — as Mc did the NYorker — or perhaps the story is too local now that O is negotiating in Old Europe.