Comments on: Don’t sue–run for your lives! (Part I) http://www.historiann.com/2008/06/24/dont-sue-run-for-your-lives-part-i/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:24:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: Academic Bullies http://www.historiann.com/2008/06/24/dont-sue-run-for-your-lives-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1896478 Mon, 06 Jan 2014 23:58:58 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=404#comment-1896478 […] Parts I and II of a post about bullies, Historiann advises their targets: “Don’t sue — run for your […]

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By: Mary http://www.historiann.com/2008/06/24/dont-sue-run-for-your-lives-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-114969 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:14:09 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=404#comment-114969 I know I’m a little late here but…

Laws holding the bully directly liable would stop most workplace bullying in its tracks and prevent it from happening in the future. I think bullies will act civilized as soon as they find out it’s them that’ll be sued, not the owners. That must be why they don’t walk around punching and raping people.

Can you imagine what the world would be like if no laws were ever passed because it was too hard?

Please sign the petition to pass the anti-bullying Healthy Workplace Bill http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/anti-bullying-healthy-workplace-bill.html .

Thank you!

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By: More Support for the Opposition to the Putative Virtue of Powerlessness « Professor Zero http://www.historiann.com/2008/06/24/dont-sue-run-for-your-lives-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-33497 Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:10:51 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=404#comment-33497 [...] have heard that there is a book criticizing Oprah, whom I do not watch, for helping to popularize a version, or a part of this twisted view of the [...]

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By: Z http://www.historiann.com/2008/06/24/dont-sue-run-for-your-lives-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-33490 Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:00:46 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=404#comment-33490 Yes re odd focus on the behavior of the victim. It seems people really, really want to believe it couldn’t happen to them, that they would be able to fix it or that they are such virtuous people that they would never ‘deserve’ this treatment. Very disturbing.

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2008/06/24/dont-sue-run-for-your-lives-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-30270 Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:10:07 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=404#comment-30270 Ugh, Been There. I’m sorry to hear about your experience, and I hope you were able to find another job and to heal.

I appreciate your perspective on what unions might and might not accomplish. It’s an interesting question–I’m not in a union (no unions at my university), and so wonder how other schools deal with bosses (chairs, deans, other administrators) being in the faculty union, when of course they were faculty members first before becoming administrators. Do other schools kick people out of the union while they’re administrating? Or do they let everyone stay in, and run the risk of protecting only one of their members against another? (Or do they appoint two mediators when a grievance arises?) Interesting twist.

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By: Been There http://www.historiann.com/2008/06/24/dont-sue-run-for-your-lives-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-30267 Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:02:04 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=404#comment-30267 With respect to unions, in my experience they make the situation worse, not better. I was bullied by my boss, who happened to be in the same union as me. (UUP, which is the SUNY faculty and professional staff union, allows union members to supervise other union members, which totally muddies the concept of what constitutes a labor-management issue and what does not). This guy had a long history of being a bully and the administration hated him, but because of the union it was impossible to get him out. The case went all the way to a final arbitration hearing (he was accused of multiple types of wrongdoing, not just bullying), but the union stalled so long that by the time the hearing was scheduled, most of the people on the administration’s witness list had left, and testifying would have meant taking time off from our news jobs and traveling out of town at our own expense. Meanwhile, the very same union did absolutely nothing to protect US from HIM, because while protecting a union member against termination is part of the union’s job, apparently protecting a union member against vicious bullying is not. It wasn’t addressed in the collective bargaining agreement, so as far as the union was concerned, it didn’t exist. So my union dues were essentially used to defend the guy whose abuse put me into therapy and on meds.

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By: Sara Beatriz Guardia « Professor Zero http://www.historiann.com/2008/06/24/dont-sue-run-for-your-lives-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-29862 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:33:26 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=404#comment-29862 [...] studied. While she was talking, I was of course thinking about how remarkably uniform strategies of bullying and abuse [...]

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By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2008/06/24/dont-sue-run-for-your-lives-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-29817 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:37:47 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=404#comment-29817 “When I meet bullies my first reaction is that they have cognitive problems and need help. It takes me a long time to figure out that it isn’t that but meanness.”

I hear that! For the longest time, I thought that someone I worked with must have Asberger’s Syndrome or some other Autism Spectrum Disorder, because she was always mis-reading other people’s attitudes and body language. But it didn’t matter in the end what her problem was–she was treating people badly, and was completely unreflective about the effect she had on other people or our working environment.

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By: Z http://www.historiann.com/2008/06/24/dont-sue-run-for-your-lives-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-29812 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:31:17 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=404#comment-29812 Amazing, SF (and everyone). I also note that it is hard (at least for me, as a victim) to define and name bullying: this may be because mildly poor behavior I am already so used to (and shouldn’t be). When I meet bullies my first reaction is that they have cognitive problems and need help. It takes me a long time to figure out that it isn’t that but meanness. Then I find out that other people think bullying is just a stress reaction and that it is acceptable if it’s a person in power doing it.

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By: On Academic Bullying « Seminario Permanente de Teoría y Crítica http://www.historiann.com/2008/06/24/dont-sue-run-for-your-lives-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-29701 Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:53:52 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/?p=404#comment-29701 [...] June 2008 · No Comments See Historiann, parts one and [...]

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