Comments on: Can you play short, ugly, and second-worst? http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/ History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:56:54 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Presidents’ Day Party and Drink Specials! : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/comment-page-1/#comment-556760 Presidents’ Day Party and Drink Specials! : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:18:46 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/#comment-556760 [...] know why, since no one else seems to be!–but  he’s got a nice post up about President Second Worst that almost–but not quite–made me change my assessment.  (It’s incidental, [...] [...] know why, since no one else seems to be!–but  he’s got a nice post up about President Second Worst that almost–but not quite–made me change my assessment.  (It’s incidental, [...]

]]> By: Intellectual dishonesty: Ur doin’ it rite on the “left!” : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/comment-page-1/#comment-511236 Intellectual dishonesty: Ur doin’ it rite on the “left!” : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:44:12 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/#comment-511236 [...] find that “important legislative work [was] all but impossible!”  (I said he was the Worst President Ever–but I never called him [...] [...] find that “important legislative work [was] all but impossible!”  (I said he was the Worst President Ever–but I never called him [...]

]]> By: Sex and the Single (or Married) “Mad” Man : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/comment-page-1/#comment-476992 Sex and the Single (or Married) “Mad” Man : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:16:36 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/#comment-476992 [...] A bonus discovery:  one of the pretty secretaries in Mad Men looks just like Notorious Girl, Ph.D.!  Seriously!  She’s the auburn-haired one who, in one of the later episodes in the first season is told by Pete Campbell to watch for Don to emerge from another man’s office, and she says to him sarcastically, “Right–I’ll just sit here and stare at that door.”  Pretty cheeky!  (Lamentably, she’s also the one who has a brief fling with the disturbingly unattractive and yet married Harold “Harry” Crane, for no apparent reason.  Ick.  Mad Men is clearly captive to the striking and in no ways feminist differential in attractiveness required of male versus female acto....) [...] [...] A bonus discovery:  one of the pretty secretaries in Mad Men looks just like Notorious Girl, Ph.D.!  Seriously!  She’s the auburn-haired one who, in one of the later episodes in the first season is told by Pete Campbell to watch for Don to emerge from another man’s office, and she says to him sarcastically, “Right–I’ll just sit here and stare at that door.”  Pretty cheeky!  (Lamentably, she’s also the one who has a brief fling with the disturbingly unattractive and yet married Harold “Harry” Crane, for no apparent reason.  Ick.  Mad Men is clearly captive to the striking and in no ways feminist differential in attractiveness required of male versus female acto….) [...]

]]> By: Daughters and political dynasties : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/comment-page-1/#comment-189022 Daughters and political dynasties : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:28:50 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/#comment-189022 [...] whose sons also became president.  (And look how that worked out for us, with Mr. Worst and Mr. Second Worst President ever!)  Longtime readers know that I am opposed to nepotism and the creation of American [...] [...] whose sons also became president.  (And look how that worked out for us, with Mr. Worst and Mr. Second Worst President ever!)  Longtime readers know that I am opposed to nepotism and the creation of American [...]

]]> By: Of corpse-kicking and His Irrelevancy : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/comment-page-1/#comment-140054 Of corpse-kicking and His Irrelevancy : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:41:20 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/#comment-140054 [...] is officially over.  Welcome to the Pantheon of failed presidencies, Your Irrelevancy!  John Adams and James Buchanan sure are happy to see [...] [...] is officially over.  Welcome to the Pantheon of failed presidencies, Your Irrelevancy!  John Adams and James Buchanan sure are happy to see [...]

]]> By: The Ladies of Edenton meet the next lady of Foggy Bottom : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/comment-page-1/#comment-130713 The Ladies of Edenton meet the next lady of Foggy Bottom : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:45:50 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/#comment-130713 [...] Thanks, Nate, for your informed opinions and bibliographical suggestions.  I don’t know about Clinton running in 2016–I’m skeptical myself, but then, I was surprised that she did so well this year.  (I think our first woman President will be a moderate-seeming member of whatever we call the conservative party at that point in history, and that I won’t live to see the day of her inauguration myself.)  Secretary of State was historically the stepping-stone to the Presidency:  Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, John Quincy Adams, Martin Van Buren, and James Buchanan all served as Secretaries of State before their elections to the Presidency.  All of these men are ranked as better than average Presidents with the exception of Buchanan.  But, note well that this hasn’t happened since Buchanan was elected in 1856, and we all know how well that turned out, don’t we?  (Curse you, third-worst President Buchanan!) [...] [...] Thanks, Nate, for your informed opinions and bibliographical suggestions.  I don’t know about Clinton running in 2016–I’m skeptical myself, but then, I was surprised that she did so well this year.  (I think our first woman President will be a moderate-seeming member of whatever we call the conservative party at that point in history, and that I won’t live to see the day of her inauguration myself.)  Secretary of State was historically the stepping-stone to the Presidency:  Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, John Quincy Adams, Martin Van Buren, and James Buchanan all served as Secretaries of State before their elections to the Presidency.  All of these men are ranked as better than average Presidents with the exception of Buchanan.  But, note well that this hasn’t happened since Buchanan was elected in 1856, and we all know how well that turned out, don’t we?  (Curse you, third-worst President Buchanan!) [...]

]]> By: Weekend doll blogging: boys of Indian summer edition : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/comment-page-1/#comment-104288 Weekend doll blogging: boys of Indian summer edition : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:32:46 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/#comment-104288 [...] approximation of Indyanna’s eclectic interests:  “John Adams” (say it with me:  President Second-Worst!) is on the left, glaring at Mary Wollstonecraft in the background behind his collection of [...] [...] approximation of Indyanna’s eclectic interests:  “John Adams” (say it with me:  President Second-Worst!) is on the left, glaring at Mary Wollstonecraft in the background behind his collection of [...]

]]> By: Beau Radley http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/comment-page-1/#comment-3443 Beau Radley Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:58:04 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/#comment-3443 Historiann: I agree to a certain extent, but then might it not be considered somewhat brave of Kidman to put on the rubber schnoz in the first place. That's really getting into a role. But I do agree that plain or "funny-looking" women should be allowed to act in major films, but I fear that ain't gonna happen in Follywood. I'd say my emphasis was more on Abigail than on John; she was an extraordinary woman and she obviously did love him. And her letters are moving to this day for me. Historiann: I agree to a certain extent, but then might it not be considered somewhat brave of Kidman to put on the rubber schnoz in the first place. That’s really getting into a role.
But I do agree that plain or “funny-looking” women should be allowed to act in major films, but I fear that ain’t gonna happen in Follywood.
I’d say my emphasis was more on Abigail than on John; she was an extraordinary woman and she obviously did love him. And her letters are moving to this day for me.

]]> By: Historiann http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/comment-page-1/#comment-3437 Historiann Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:41:47 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/#comment-3437 Beau--I agree that Virginia Woolf wasn't as beauteous as Nicole Kidman. But the solution to that is allowing plain or funny-looking women to act in major roles too. Why should Adams get the credit for his wife? The guy got lucky, that's all. True, Adams didn't invade Mexico. But nobody's making biopics about Polk now, are they? Beau–I agree that Virginia Woolf wasn’t as beauteous as Nicole Kidman. But the solution to that is allowing plain or funny-looking women to act in major roles too. Why should Adams get the credit for his wife? The guy got lucky, that’s all.

True, Adams didn’t invade Mexico. But nobody’s making biopics about Polk now, are they?

]]> By: GayProf http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/comment-page-1/#comment-3435 GayProf Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:32:50 +0000 http://www.historiann.com/2008/03/17/can-you-play-short-ugly-and-second-worst/#comment-3435 At least John Adams didn't invade Mexico. At least John Adams didn’t invade Mexico.

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