Comments on: What we talk about when we talk about misogyny, religion, racism, and teh funny

By: Historiann

Historiann — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:40:57 +0000

Beautiful, Pal! I love it. She’s just Bill’s tool, but she’s a nut-busting bee-yatch. She’s a frigid lesbian who was having an affair with Vince Foster before she murdered him. She’s too cold and calculating, until she cries, when she’s just being a manipulative female.

However, I disagree that she’s not got women on her side–Latinas and white women turned out big-time for her yesterday, and she’s winning more of them back from the Obama camp. (But you’re right–the struggle against sexism isn’t women-against-men, it’s all of us against ourselves and our own reptile brains!)

She can’t win, clearly. She should drop out now–but wait! Ohmigod! She won last night! How can this be? Must be dirty tricks, satanic power, etc…

By: PalMD

PalMD — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:51:01 +0000

I was listening to Diane Rehm the other day, and a woman called in, sounded a bit on the older side, and said she didn’t like Hillary because she sounded like an angry, (impotent), PTA mom. When the host (Rehm was off) said something like, “but others have said she seems like a very strong, powerful woman,” the caller said, “Yes, and that too! So harsh! I could never vote for her!”

Can’t even get her props from women. So many hills for her to climb (BTW, vote Obama!, or HC, whoever wins).

By: Historiann

Historiann — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:53:23 +0000

Thanks, BEW. I looked at that MSNBC exit poll data, and it was hard to figure. There probably are people who say that the sex of their favored candidate–Clinton–was a factor, and there are African American people who may also have said that the race of their favored candidate–Obama–was a factor, so given the ambiguity of the question it’s hard to figure. However, the reptile brain is never far behind the prefrontal cortex of American voters, I’m afraid.

By: BEW

BEW — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:26:46 +0000

Here’s the cite for the race issue that ej mention

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/

(You have to page down).

I’ve seen numbers about racism affect ~8-10% and ad about 6-8% on sexism for Democratic voters on Super Tuesday. Unfortunately, I don’t have a cite.

By: Historiann

Historiann — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 04:38:06 +0000

I’m with you–but the Obama cheerleading gets to me. I’ll watch for news about race in Ohio in the reports tomorrow!

By: ej

ej — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 04:27:16 +0000

Yeah, but I’m ashamed to reveal it-it was from exit polls cited by Nora O’Donnell on MSNBC. I confess, I turn to those Irish white guys for my election coverage.

But what’s a gal to do? I can’t stand that Wolf Blizter…

By: Historiann

Historiann — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 04:21:34 +0000

ej–do you have a cite for the information about race in Ohio? That really stinks.

By: ej

ej — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 04:11:58 +0000

I have to say, what the democratic campaign for a nominee has revealed about both sexism and racism in this country shocks me, and makes me fear that the Republicans will, once again, win the general. The blatant sexism that HRC has experienced has been intolerable, but the fact that 1 in 5 voters in Ohio said race was a factor, and 8 of 10 of them voted for Clinton, is equally appalling! And now they’re doing McCain’s dirty work for him with all their negativity. I admit it-fear is motivating me. Fear of 4 more years of a Republican!

By: David

David — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:20:53 +0000

Of course, Hillary can keep her campaign going as long as she wants, but the delegate math for her is quite daunting at this point, which is the main issue. Is it impossible for her to win the nomination? Absolutely not. But I think her best chance at this point is to hold her own in the remaining states and hope that something bad comes out of the Rezko trial that tarnishes Obama and pushes the superdelegates in her direction. Otherwise, it’s hard to see how she gets to where she needs to be.

At the very least, she should be aiming to win more delegates tonight than Obama. If she falls further behind in delegates, I don’t think Pennsylvania will be enough to pull her back up.